11th September, 1947

Yesterday, a sadhu came and sat in the Hall. He seemed
anxious to speak to Bhagavan, but hesitant. After some time,
he approached him and said, “Swami, it is said that the Self
(atma), is all-pervading. Does that mean that it is in a dead
body also?”

“Oho! So that is what you want to know?” rejoined
Bhagavan. “And did the question occur to the dead body or
to you?”
“To me,” said the sadhu.
Bhagavan: “When you are asleep do you question
whether you exist or not? It is only after you wake up that
you say you exist. In the dream state also, the Self exists.
There is really no such thing as a dead or a living body. That
which does not move we call dead, and that which has
movement we call alive. In dreams you see any number of
bodies, living and dead, and they have no existence when
you wake up. In the same way this whole world, animate
and inanimate, is non-existent. Death means the dissolution
of the ego, and birth means the rebirth of the ego. There
are births and deaths, but they are of the ego; not of you.
You exist whether the sense of ego is there or not. You are
its source, but not the ego-sense. Deliverance (mukti) means
finding the origin of these births and deaths and demolishing
the ego-sense to its very roots. That is deliverance. It means
death with full awareness. If one dies thus, one is born again
simultaneously and in the same place with Aham sphurana
known as ‘Aham, Aham (I, I)’. One who is born thus, has no
doubts whatsoever.”
Yesterday evening, after the chanting of the Vedas, a
young European who came four or five days ago, asked
Bhagavan a number of questions. Bhagavan, as usual,
countered him with the question, “Who are you? Who is
asking these questions?” Unable to get any other elucidation,
the young man as a last resort asked Bhagavan which verse
of the Gita he liked the most, and Bhagavan replied that he
liked them all. When the young man still persisted in asking
which was the most important verse, Bhagavan told him,
Chapter X, Verse 20 which runs: “I am the Self, Oh

Gudakesa(1), seated in the heart of all beings. I am the
beginning and the middle and the end of all beings.”
The questioner was pleased and satisfied and on taking
leave, said, “Swami, this unreal self is obliged to travel owing
to the exigencies of work. I pray that you may be pleased to
recommend that this unreal self be merged into the real Self.”
Bhagavan, smiling, replied, “Such a recommendation
might be necessary where there are a number of different
selves — one to ask for a recommendation, one to
recommend and one to hear the recommendation. But there
are not so many selves. There is only one Self. Everything is
in the one Self.”

Another name of Arjuna.